The Paper. Hitler and Lincoln Two Dictators in time.
Hello Mr. Demastus:
Here is the paper which I promised I would send you. If you recall, I wrote this paper as an assignment. I wanted to thank everyone that helped me with source material. This paper was in fact an education in and unto itself. I would like to get a review from you on it. If it is good enough then please post it. I think people would be shock (Liberals would if they still have a mind) but us Southerners have always been suspicious that it was true. The instructor did exactly as predicted. He tried to cut it so far so it could not defend itself. This copy is the
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The Two Dictators in Time
In history people are remembered for their deeds done on this earth. I was looking for some information concerning the role of the Confederacy in history and I ran across this Statement:
“I will say while I am upon this subject, I have no purpose directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no disposition to introduce the political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together on terms of respect, social and political equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a superiority somewhere, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position; but I hold that because of all this there is no reason at all furnished why the negro after all is not entitled to all that the declaration of independence holds out, which is “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” and I hold that he is as much entitled to that as the white man. I agree that the Negro may not be my equal and Judge Douglas’ equal in many respects – certainly not in color, and in intellectual development, perhaps – but in the right to the bread which his own hand earns, he is my own equal and Judge Douglas’ equal, and the equal of every living man.” (Abraham Lincoln, The First Joint Debate at Ottawa, August 21, 1858.)
What is this? This sounds familiar. It is stating very clearly that Lincoln is in favor of the White Race being superior. Yet 70 years later, we hear a similar theme with a leader halfway round the world declaring a “Master Race” being Blonde Hair, Blue Eye and that any other race is inferior. So the question begs, “What else can be compared between Lincoln and Hitler? This research will be in the comparisons between these two leaders.
Master Race Question
Hitler’s Ideology and condition
We hear much about Adolf Hitler, his party, and his madness. History records him as a butcher who killed approximately six millions Jews, Gypsies, and any other race which the Nazi’s deemed as inferior. Hitler’s dream was that a Master Race that comprised of Blonde Hair and Blue Eye Aryans. This was the symbol of perfection to him. This was in fact primary what Germans looked like and was their ideal. The Aryans to Hitler were on top and the Nordic Peoples were second. Germans are descendants of the Norse people which are connected with the Scandinavians (Norway, and Sweden), which also show this genetic traits. However, unlike the Scandinavians, the Germans are said to include the Assyrians since some do show those traits as well. The Terminator and current governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger shows this with the square and block style head he has. This is what Hitler believed that these people with these traits were superior in intellect, the sciences, and strength to forge a superhuman race. He also believed that those races that did not exhibit these traits were in fact inferior to his ideal and were to become slaves, or totally wiped out to make room for the Master Race he was creating. He also believed that Germany would lead Europe to a glorious Millennium under the leadership of the Third Reich. This was to set the stage that resulted in many being killed.
Lincoln’s Ideology and condition
By the time Lincoln came onto the stage his philosophy had become well known in his adopted home state of Illinois. Lincoln was born in Kentucky, which was later to be pro Southern in philosophy. His family moved to Illinois and he became a lawyer in Springfield and later became a representative in the State of Illinois. His White Supremacist attitudes towards Negro’s are reflected in his speeches and actions. Mr. Lincoln while a Illinois representative to the U.S. Congress supported both the Fugitive Slave Law and in his home state, the 1848 revision of the Illinois state constitution which in Article XIV said that any Negro staying more than ten days in the state shall be fine and if they could not pay, would be sold into slavery. This also would reappear in the form of a Notice sent out by James W. Davis who was the Prosecuting Attorney for the city of Alton IL. Which States:
“NOTICE TO THE ‘FREE NEGROES.’ – I hereby give public notice to all free negroes who have arrived here from a foreign State within the past two months, or may hereafter come into the city of Alton with the intention of being residents thereof that they are allowed the space of thirty days to remove; and, upon failure to leave the city, will, after that period, be proceeded against by the undersigned, as by law directed. The penalty is a heavy fine, to liquidate which the law-officer is compelled to offer all free Negroes arrested at public auction, unless the fine and all costs of suit are promptly paid. I hope the authorities will spare the necessity of putting the above law in execution. All railroad companies and steamboats are also forbidden to land free Negroes within the city under penalty of the law. No additional notice will be given. Suits will POSITIVELY be instituted against all offenders. (James W. Davis May, 27, 1862)
Notice, this was in 1862 and Abraham Lincoln is president. Now, one would think that based on the previous statement he made that he wishes the superior position be with the White race and allowing officials like Mr. Davis to enslave the only class with no rights, Negroes. Even northern newspaper show that this thought had prevailed in the North and was not just a Southern problem. The Boston Daily Courier stated in its September 24th 1860 edition “… we believe the mulatto to be inferior in capacity, character, and organization to the full-blooded black, and still farther below the standard of the white races.” Another newspaper “The Philadelphia Inquirer” in its March 11, 1861 edition “ The proposition that the Negro is equal by nature, physically and mentally, to the white man, seems to be so absurd and preposterous, that we cannot conceive how it can be entertained by any intelligent and rational white man.” But, perhaps the best representation of sentiment was shown in The Niles Republican published on March 30, 1861 “… this government was made for the benefit of the white race… and not for Negroes.”
Comparisons and Impact
The Idea of a Master Race is one which was not new by the time Hitler came on the scene. For by the news headlines, had they replaced the word Negro with the word Jew, you would have the headlines of newspapers in Munich, Hamburg, and Berlin in 1933. In both cases, the making of a war was in the mix.
Hitler’s Thoughts about Deportation
These days deportation happens on a daily basis, especially here in America on the Mexican border. However, with Hitler the deportation was not out of the country, but out of life. Hitler, with the use of the SS, rounded up many so called “inferior” races and ethic groups and deported them to concentration camps. Much of it was in fact slave labor. This labor was in factory’s and war damage repairs such as roads, bridges, and railways. However, many were processed into lampshades and ashes. Sometimes just stripped naked and either shot or made to take showers with Zyklon B Gas. This was to speed up efficient methods of human disposal. This begun back in Sept 6th 1919 in a letter written to an Adolf Gemlich, a soldier who did not understand why Germany lost WWI. He states “Rational anti-Semitism on the other hand, must lead to a systematic legal opposition and elimination of the special privileges that Jews hold, in contrast to the other aliens living among us (alien’s legislation). Its final objective must unswervingly be the removal of the Jews altogether.” (A. Hitler). Perhaps the most obvious written intent from Hitler was in a police report dated April 6th 1920 after a NSDAP meeting. It states:
“..we have no intentions of being emotional anti-Semites who want to create the atmosphere of a pogrom. Instead, our hearts are filled with an inexorable determination to attack evil at its roots and to extirpate it root and branch. In order to reach our goal every means will be justified, even if we have to make a pact with the devil.” (A. Hitler)
Adolf Eichmann recommendation
While the deportation of Jews throughout Europe and with every means, including death of millions of Jews. An SS Lieutenant-Colonel, Adolf Eichmann was the head of the Jewish Office of the Gestapo seek the question about shipping all Jews to Palestine. He investigated this in 1937. However, with the rapid cleansing of Europe of Jews that Hitler had ordered, this was not a possibility. However, he did take pride in his work. Being chief of the Jewish Office, he succeeded in organization mass exodus of Jews from Germany, Austria, and Bohemia. He was basically an unknown until 1944 when the “Grand Inquisitor” was becoming known in Budapest in the murdering of Hungarian Jews. By this time between his camps and mobile extermination units, he had boosted that he eliminated six million Jews, four million from the death camps and two million from the mobile units. He continued to do so even after being instructed by Reichenfurher Heinrich Himmler, a sadist in his own right, to stop gassing Jews. Yet, this is the same Himmler that in a secret communiqué to Hitler stated:
, ..I hope that the concept of Jews will be completely extinguished through the possibility of large-scale emigration of all Jews to Africa or some other colony. It must also be possible, in a somewhat longer period of time, to let the national concept of Ukrainians, Gorals and Lemcos disappear in our territory. Whatever is said concerning these splinter peoples applies on a correspondingly larger scale to the Poles. (H. Himmler May 25th 1940)
So, in the beginning both subordinates wanted to deport the Jews out of Europe. However, this was not possible as Hitler wants rapid deportation for Lebensraum or living space for Aryans.
Lincoln’s Thoughts about Deportation
For the Union! This is what Lincoln had touted during the War of Northern Invasion. Yet, as stated earlier by his writings and speeches that he was a white supremacist. He believed that the white race was superior to any other race, in particular to the black race. So what do you think his plans for them once the war was over? What has his sentiment? Perhaps we should look at the first Lincoln/Douglas Debate held in Ottawa Illinois on August 21st 1858 where he states:
"When Southern people tell us they are no more responsible for the origin of slavery than we, I acknowledge the fact. When it is said that the institution exists, and that it is very difficult to get rid of it, in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know how to do myself. If all earthly power were given me, I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me, that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible. If they were all landed there in a day, they would all perish in the next ten days; and there are not surplus shipping and surplus money enough in the world to carry them there in many times ten days. What then? Free them all, and keep them among us as underlings? Is it quite certain that this betters their condition? I think I would not hold one in slavery at any rate; yet the point is not clear enough to me to denounce people upon. What next? Free them, and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this; and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not. Whether this feeling accords with justice and sound judgment, is not the sole question, if, indeed, it is any part of it. A universal feeling, whether well or ill-founded, cannot be safely disregarded. We cannot, then, make them equals. It does seem to me that systems of gradual emancipation might be adopted; but for their tardiness in this, I will not undertake to judge our brethren of the South. (A. Lincoln)
It is interesting to note that just in this statement alone Mr. Lincoln acknowledges that gradual emancipation is the way to handle the shrinking or dismantling of the institution of slavery. The south for the most part did in fact have a program like that in progress. However, it was not fast enough to suit the North and Mr. Lincoln. He also acknowledge that he would immediately (without consideration) to ship all Negros back to the African Continent. Never mind that many of them were born in the U.S. and know no other place. Just pack them up and ship them out. He also had treated native populations the same way as we will see later. Mr. Lincoln was creating Living Space for the White Population, especially in the West.
The Parallel about Deportation from the Two Dictators.
Both Lincoln and Hitler had similar reasons for the deportations of groups and cultures which are deemed inferior to their own. Hitler was looking at Jews as creating all of the problems in Germany. Lincoln was looking at Native Americans being part of the problem. However, in both cases these two dictators were looking for living space for their people. Germany was looking at dispossessing its neighboring countries while Lincoln was dispossessing the Native population for living space for White peoples. Also, while Hitler’s assistants looked to deporting Jews to Palestine, Lincoln was pushing to cleanse areas of native populations being deemed as savages and inferior to the white race.
Hitler’s Aryans and all others.
This term brings fear into many people. In Nazi Germany it became synonymous with the destruction of European Jewry and any “inferior” cultures. With the exception of both Himmler and Eichmann attempting to deport the Jews to Palestine, it was to be a total cleansing of any non Aryan races. The world does understand this barbarism that the Nazi’s are well known for.
Lincoln: The Great Manipulator
Most people do not equate Lincoln with attempted cleansing with one culture and a full attempt to commit genocide against another. Perhaps the best known of this type happened on Dec 16th 1862 in Mankato, Minnesota. Then Governor Alexander Ramsey did not want to honor treaties that were made with the Sioux Indians in Minnesota. Since the Sioux were a nomadic tribe that hunted buffalo and had made a treaty with the whites to live on reservations in exchange for 1.4 million dollars. Food that was to go to the tribe was not reaching them because Indian agents were keeping all the treaty money and selling off the good food to white settlers and giving the Sioux the rest that had spoiled and was not fit to eat. The Sioux were forced to sneak off the reservation to find food and stole some eggs from white settlers and this began the trouble. Lincoln wanted to hang all 303 Indian Males found guilty of this thief. However, Mr. Lincoln was worried that if he did that Europe would help the Confederacy. So, he worked out a deal with Governor Ramsey that he would get 2 million dollars (Remember he only owed the Indians 1.4 million) plus the promise that all Indians in Minnesota would be killed or driven out of the state. In a text order to General Sibley on Dec 26th 1862 the order came. :
Ordered that of the Indians and Half-breeds sentenced to be hanged by the military commission composed of Colonel Crooks, Lt Colonel Marshall, Captain Grant, Captain Bailey, and Lieutenant Olin, and lately sitting in Minnesota you cause to be executed on Friday the nineteenth day of December, instant , the following names to wit
President of the United States
Earlier Governor Ramsey on September 9th 1862 declared “The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the border of the state” (Ramsey Sept 9th 1862 Mankato). What makes this worst was the reply by telegram from General Sibley to Abraham Lincoln on December 27th:
“SAINT PAUL December 27, 1862. The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have the honor to inform you that the thirty-eight Indians and half-breeds ordered by you for execution were hung yesterday at Mankato at 10 a.m. Everything went off quietly and the other prisoners are well secured. Respectfully, H. H. SIBLEY, Brigadier-General.”
What is this, the honor! The honor of participating in the largest mass execution in U.S. History? This is a reflection on Mr. Lincoln and his views.
Perhaps Lincoln’s Eichmann would be none other than General Sherman. Yes, this butcher of Atlanta in a letter he wrote:
“I am satisfied…. That the problem of this war consists in the awful fact that the present class of men who rule the South must be killed outright rather than in the conquest of territory…a great deal of it, yet, remain to be done… Therefore, I shall expect you on any and all occasions to make bloody results.” (Official Records Vol XLIII, Part II, Page 553) Also on January 21, 1865 in a communiqué stated: “The people of the South… see… the sure and inevitable destruction of all their property… They see in the repetition of such raids the inevitable result of starvation and misery.” (Official Records, Vol XLV, Part II Page 622). Sherman showed this with his march to the sea with his mobile extermination units with complete and total disregard for property, and even life. Even the raping of women (White or Black didn’t matter) was allowed even rewarded.
With both Lincoln and Hitler one can see the evidence of a Master Race Policy (Hitler with Aryans and Lincoln with Whites), a deportation policy (Hitler with Palestine and Lincoln with Liberia or just driven out), and finally the Dreaded Final Solution, the extermination of a culture and a race. Can I see Lincoln wearing a Swastika? The answer is very clear. In fact an author “Harry Turtledove” author of the book “Guns of the New South” suggested that in his writing that Lincoln might have prescribed to Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto. It is interesting that both conducted themselves as butchers and plunged millions into war and death. Yet, one was condemned and the other was praised as a savior for a race he hated and was called a hero. One thing is very clear “Honest Abe was not honest and the “Great Emancipator” was in fact the “Great Manipulator”
History does have a way of telling the truth even if revisionists do not want you to.
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Alternate Name is Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. References below are from these records.
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Official Records, Vol., XVI., pt. II: 319
Official Records, Vol, XLI, pt; I: 932
Official Records, Vol, XLI, pt; I: 927
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Official Records Vol. XVI, pt. 277
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